$203 billion asset manager Cliff Asness says he'll stick with his trademark investing style 'like grim death' despite bleeding assets

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$203 billion asset manager Cliff Asness says he'll stick with his trademark investing style 'like grim death' despite bleeding assets

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  • Cliff Asness, the founder of $203 billion AQR Capital Management, said it's a "pretty crappy" environment for his firm's quantitative investing style.
  • Asness explained at the Morningstar Conference on Thursday why investors are less likely to stick with a factor-based strategy, compared with basic stock picking, in a challenging market environment.
  • On the same day, the quantitative research division of French bank Societe Generale pushed back on the idea that quants are struggling, highlighting a few strategies with better performance.
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Cliff Asness is back to smashing his screen.

The founder of $203 billion quantitative investment firm AQR Capital Management has a well-known response to down markets that's led to the demise of more than one computer. This year hasn't been a good one for his IT department, as he noted in a keynote speech about factor investing on Thursday at Morningstar's annual Chicago conference.

His firm saw more than $1 billion pulled in the first quarter, after $8.1 billion left in 2018, according to Bloomberg. AQR's $6 billion managed futures fund has returned -3.2% in the last year, per Morningstar. By comparison, Credit Suisse's managed futures fund returned almost 1% over the same time period.

"Managers say 'it's been a challenging environment for our strategy,' which is true but doesn't sum it up. This is pretty crappy," he told financial advisors and asset managers.

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Asness tried to explain why investors' confidence wavers more in factor investing, which is based on specific return drivers like value and momentum, than in traditional stock picking. Fundamental portfolio managers may be able to articulate why their investment thesis didn't hold up case-by-case, but that's harder to do in a strategy that combines multiple factors.

"When you have a crappy period, intuition becomes much more important," he said, because "when things are bad, people want to understand why."

Asness he struggles with pointing to specific reasons for performance over short- to medium-term periods, particularly because investors think of quantitative strategies as a black box.

"It's a pretty transparent black box, but it does feel like one when you're losing," he said. "Each [factor] is quite intuitive viewed alone. It's not a non-intuitive investment process. But specifically when it wins and loses is less intuitive."

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While AQR's strategy may be more difficult to understand, particularly on a year-by-year basis, there's a silver lining, said Asness: if it were more comprehensible, more capital would chase the same investment style and diminish the firm's investing edge.

"Our plan is to stick with the strategies like grim death," he said. "We don't have a strategy problem. We expect to see these kind of returns occasionally, though we hate it when it occurs, but we do have an intuition problem."

On the same day as Asness' speech, Societe Generale's quantitative research team published a note that questioned the assertion that quants are struggling.

"Risk premia funds and indices have performed strongly in this environment. These funds are now halfway back to their high water mark, with stunning performance in commodity and [foreign exchange] volatility premia," the researchers wrote.

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